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Five qualities of a good novel as shown in the book Shane July 25, 2017

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51rRxrScknL._SX335_BO1,204,203,200_I just finished reading the classic western Shane by Jack Schaefer, which was published in 1949 and made into a movie in 1953.  The novel set me to reflecting on what made it a best-seller that is still read in schools and has stayed popular for so many years.  As the St. George Daily Spectum wrote: “Shane is a work of literature first and a Western second.”  What qualities does it have that make it a work of literature?

Interestingly, the novel opens at a slow pace.  Today’s writers are taught to open with action or grab the reader’s attention in some way.  However, in this book the author takes his time introducing the characters and setting. The result is very effective.

Here is the opening paragraph: “He rode into our valley in the summer of ’89.  I was a kid then, barely topping the backboard of father’s old chuckwagon.  I was on the upper rail of our small corral, soaking in the late afternoon sun, when I saw him far down the road where it swung into the valley from the open plain beyond.” (p. 1)

For the next eight paragraphs, the boy continues to describe the horseman as he rides closer and closer, then finally into the farmstead where the boy observes him.

This slow pace allows the reader to see the stranger and enter into the world the boy, Bob, lives in.  It is told from the intimate first-person point of view.  We see the horseman, the small town, the river and the fork in the road as the rider draws closer and finally into view.  Bob tells us the stranger’s clothes are different from the local people.  He wears tall boots and a belt, both made of a soft black leather tooled in intricate design and a “finespun” linen shirt.

A child’s viewpoint is an interesting way to tell the story because Bob is a keen observer of life, yet he is young and doesn’t understand everything that’s going on.  We, as the reader, left to our own interpretation of people and events, have deeper insights into what is going on.

The plot is fairly straight-forward.  Bob and his parents live on a farm and a mysterious stranger rides onto their land and asks for a drink of water.  The father, Joe, soon recognizes that Shane is the kind of man whom nobody will push around and asks him to stay as a farmhand.

Shane hires on and is loyal to the family, so when a powerful rancher tries to drive out the local farmers, Shane is pulled into the deadly conflict.

The story focuses more on character development than action and the topics of courage, honor, love and heroes are explored.

The book is relatively short, yet it will draw you in from the beginning and keep you reading to the end, leaving you to ponder its depth and layers of meaning.

The reader never does find out about Shane’s background and what it is he’s trying to escape.  He finds serenity and inner peace on the farm, but this is broken by the tension in town between the farmers and the large rancher.

So what makes this a good novel?

  1. It has well-developed characters with heroic qualities that we care about.
  2. It has an interesting plot with high stakes, both in terms of how the outcome will affect the character’s lives and how it will force them to grow and change.
  3. It has great descriptions and metaphors. Here is the boy’s description of a stump. “It was big enough, I used to think, so that if it was smooth on top you could have served supper to a good-sized family.” (p. 18)
  4. The author, Jack Schaefer, shows the reader what’s going on instead of telling him, leaving the reader to interpret the situation.
  5. The story has good pacing that gradually builds to the climatic ending.

In conclusion, Shane is a great read for anyone who enjoys a good western.  For writers, it’s an interesting study in what makes a good novel.  As you read the book, look for the five qualities listed above and ask yourself the following questions:

  1. What draws the reader into a story and keeps them there?
  2. What universal values and ideas make the story worth telling?

I invite you to share your thoughts in the comments section.  What do you think makes a good novel?  What qualities do you look for in a book?

If you’ve read Shane, I’d like to hear your thoughts on the characters and story.



10 Tips for Becoming a Better Writer January 5, 2016

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  1. Write regularly. Like practicing the scales on a piano, anything you want to be good at takes time and effort. The more you work at it, the better you will become. Dedication to your writing is more important than natural talent. You can learn to write just as you can learn to draw, play an instrument or play golf.
  2. Keep a journal. A journal is a great place to write down your goals, dreams and ideas. It’s a place you can write without worrying about whether anyone will see or like it. You can learn about yourself, heal from hard experiences and write down stories about your life.

I was inspired to become a writer after having a series of six movie-like dreams. My dream journal entries of the story filled 100 pages. The story was so enjoyable I learned the craft of writing.

  1. Keep a notebook with you. You never know when you’re going to have an idea you want to jot down such as an inspiration for a character or scene. You might overhear an interesting conversation that sparks an idea or see a building or park or woods you want to use for a scene of your novel.
  2. Join a critique group. Find a group of writers that are on the same level as you or more experienced. Meet with them on a regular basis—once a week or once a month. Exchange your work ahead of time and so they can comment on your writing. Be open to criticism. Listen to all they have to say without defending yourself. When they are done, you can ask them to clarify their comments if there’s anything you don’t understand. When you go home, you can decide if their comments are helpful. I pay special attention when several people in the group feel the same way about something. In the end it’s up to you to decide what criticism is helpful.
  3. Take a writing class. College classes, night classes, or community center classes—all can be helpful. Find a writing class on the type of writing you want to do whether fiction, nonfiction, poetry or articles.
  4. Go to writing conferences. Conferences are a great way to meet other writers. There are many different types of writing conferences. The romance, science fiction and mystery writers offer big ones every year. Agents are often at conferences and may offer sessions where you can pitch your book to them. Local or regional conferences for all types of writers are also beneficial.
  5. Join local writing groups. Look for ones with people who write literary fiction or in the same genre as you do. My area has romance, speculative fiction, mystery, library, church, and women writers groups.
  6. Read regularly in a variety of genres. Read fiction and nonfiction, past and current best-selling books. Read the genre you write. Read with a critical eye. What makes the book good? Where could it be improved? In a novel do you like the pacing, plot and characters?
  7. Read books on writing. Start your own writing reference library. I have an unabridged dictionary, thesaurus and several books on grammar in my library although now I use the computer mainly as a reference. I have books on character, plot, dialogue, description and scenes. I have books on writing science fiction since I write in that genre. I also write historical novels, so I have books on Native Americans and Vikings. Other books include inspirational, getting an agent or publisher, The Writer’s Market and books on marketing.
  8. Never give up. Just keep writing and submitting to agents and publishers or self-publish. You’re never too old to start writing. You’re never too busy to write. Write when you can and where you can. You don’t need a special time to write or special room to write in. All you need is a piece of paper and a pen or a computer or word processor.

Share your tips for being a better writer.  I’d love to add to the list

What is the difference between a short story and a novel? June 23, 2015

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I write novels and have extensively studied the complexities of how to write one. I’m less familiar with the structure of short stories, so I did some research to figure how a short story is different from a novel.

The obvious difference between a novel and a short story is that short stories are short and novels are long. Short stories can be 1,000 to 20,000 words. More average is 3,000 to 5,000 words. A novel can be anywhere from 60,000 to over 120,000.

A short story has one main character and the story is told through that character’s point of view. Often it is told in first person or limited first person. A novel has a cast of characters and the story can be told from any of those characters’ viewpoints.

The main character of a short story has a need or fear that leads to a major change or climactic event in that person’s life. The protagonist comes to a single understanding or insight. A novel is much more complex with many transformational events that more than one characters can go through.

A short story usually takes place in a few hours or days in few settings. A novel can take place over a short period of time or it may cover years or generations in many different settings, countries and even planets.

A short story has one theme, whereas a novel can explore different themes and has more breadth and scope.

Each story form has different challenges. The short story gives the author a chance to explore one idea with one character. It must be written so that it is tight and a lot conveyed in an economy of words. The first draft may be written in one setting and rewritten and edited in a short period of time. However, the limitation on the number of words in itself can be a challenge. How do you make a reader care about the character in so few pages? How do you make an emotional impact?

The novelist has time to explore characters, different settings, subplots and sweeping events. The commitment to write a novel is much larger and it may take years to research, write, rewrite and edit.

While researching the difference between short stories and novels I came across a YouTube of TC Boyle reading The Lie from his anthology Wild Child: And Other Stories51++DtIBs9L._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_. The story is delightful to listen to and quite engaging. I found myself thinking—no don’t say that! I can’t believe you just said that. What were you thinking?

The Lie illustrates all the qualities of a good short story discussed above. It’s well worth listening to.

Here is the YouTube:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-nwoMJTung

I’d enjoy hearing your impressions of The Lie. Did you find yourself identifying with the main character? Did you laugh? Have you ever told a lie that led you to more lies?

If you’d like a copy of my short story Star Rider Emerges, click over to my website and sign up for my newsletter. Here is a link: bluestarvisions

Lessons Learned While Knitting a Pair of Socks March 22, 2014

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Heidi shoe showing.

Heidi shoe showing.

Today I am at my  husband, Jim, and my cabin in Detroit Lakes.  It’s March, so winter is on the way out, but up here in the North Country there is still a thick covering of snow, so we had to buy snowshoes and hike in a quarter of a mile to get to the cabin.  It took several trips back and forth to bring in our food and clothes. Jim built a fire to heat the cabin.  I took off my wet shoes and socks and put on a new, dry pair of wool socks.

Jim in his snowshoes

Jim in his snowshoes

As I sat in a chair reading, I looked down at my socks and thought of the story behind their creation.  I knitted them several years ago.  The cuffs were a complicated lace pattern, and I started knitting the socks as I sat on a train on the way from where I live in Minneapolis to Milwaukee, about a seven-hour trip.

Here is the cabin.

Here is the cabin.

I started on the first sock and knitted for several inches, then saw that the pattern didn’t look right.  I ripped it out and started over. Again, it didn’t turn out right.  This went on and on for many hours.  It was an unfamiliar pattern, and each row was different.  Moreover, I wasn’t sure how it was supposed to look, and to complicate the situation the yarn was variegated, which made it hard to tell if the pattern was right or not until you knitted many rows.

I wasn’t particularly upset by having to rip out my knitting  One thing you learn as a knitter is that sometimes you are going to make mistakes.  Knitting is forgiving in that you can usually rip something out quite easily.  I saw the pattern as a challenge like a puzzle I was trying to solve.  I’m a good knitter and had learned to knit many years ago from my grandmother, so I wasn’t expecting to have this kind of difficulty.  I had anticipated having at least one if not both socks done by the time I got to Milwaukee.  Instead, I had nothing to show for my time.

As I was knitting, a man came up to me and said, “I’ve never seen someone with so much patience.  You’ve been working for hours and keep starting over without getting upset.”  I found his remark interesting in that it showed me that even when we think no one notices us, in fact, other people might be observing us.  What kind of example are we to others?  Are we demonstrating love, tolerance or perhaps the opposite?


My son-in-law Nick was telling me just yesterday that he was impressed by how good Jim was with our grandson Asher.  Nick said he was learning to be a better father just watching him. Again, this was happening while my husband was being an example without realizing it.

But back to my sock story. When I arrived in Milwaukee, still without figuring out the pattern, I went to the yarn shop with my sister.  I bought knitting markers, and I drew a diagram of the pattern.  With the markers and the diagram, I was able to do the pattern and successfully make the lace pattern socks.

When I finished, my sister said, “You should keep those socks for yourself instead of giving them away.  No one else will ever appreciate the work you put into them.”  She was right.  Whenever I wear the socks, I remember the lessons I learned while knitting them.  One is that with persistence, patience, a little creativity, and a willingness to try things a different way; we can accomplish our goals even when at first they seem almost impossible.  Sometimes we have to rip out and keep trying over and over again, but eventually we’ll figure it out.

What I learned from knitting those socks applies to other areas of my life like my writing.  I’m working on the third book in my Star Rider science fiction series.  I’ve been writing for years and even teach writing, and yet sometimes I have to write a scene over and over again trying to make it flow smoothly.  Sometimes I struggle to make the characters come alive and to have their dialogue sound real.  While doing all that I also have to make sure the scene has tension, excitement and a good beginning, middle and end.

I’ve found that most things that are worthwhile in life take hard work, perseverance and patience.  Have you ever had an experience like mine where you had to work on something over and over again before you finally got it right?  I’d love to hear from you.

My Journey Making an eBook January 23, 2014

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Red Willow's Quest

Red Willow’s Quest

As much as I love the feel of a book, the future of the publishing industry seems to be moving more toward eBooks, so I decided to put my toe in the water and convert my novel Red Willow’s Quest into an eBook.

The first thing I did was to have it professionally edited to make the writing even stronger.   A well-edited eBook is as important as a well-edited print book.

The next step was to decide if I should design a new cover or use the original one.  Many people decide whether to buy an eBook based on the cover.  With eBooks it’s a challenge to create a cover that shows the title, author’s name and art work clearly when the image may only be an inch high on some sites.  The author also has to consider that the eBook illustration might be black-and-white, so it needs to look good in black-and-white as well as color.  I already had a cover design for my novel when it was originally printed, so I decided to use the same cover.

The third step was to convert the electronically word-processed book file into the proper eBook formats.  While it’s possible to do this yourself, it takes time to learn and it’s not expensive to hire someone.  Before giving your file to someone to format, be sure to read over the manuscript again to ensure that there are no errors.  It’s helpful to also have someone else proofread it because once it’s formatted it costs money to make any changes.

My grandson Asher reading Red Willow's Quest

My grandson Asher reading Red Willow’s Quest

A friend recommended the company I used to format my manuscript. He formatted in several different ways so that it can be read on different kinds of readers.  For example, Amazon needs a different format than an iPad.

After this was done, it was ready to post on Amazon.  I decided to do it using the Amazon Select program.  With this program, Amazon has exclusive rights to publish the eBook for 90 days.  During these 90 days, you can give the manuscript away for free on several different days.  This is a way to generate interest in the eBook, as word-of-mouth endorsements can be a very effective way to become virally known.

At this point in the process I was set to go, but still felt intimidated by the process of actually putting the file up on Amazon.  Fortunately my daughter helped me set up an account on Amazon and download the file.  It was fairly easy to do and I’m sure I can do it without help in the future.

 Now my book is available on Amazon both as print book and an eBook. 

If you like exciting, historical fiction novels, read Red Willow’s Quest. Here is the back cover blurb:

Action, romance and adventure set the tone for this uplifting story about a Shoshoni maiden, Red Willow, who sets out on a quest to become a medicine woman in the rugged Rocky Mountains.  She must face tribal opposition, wild animals, enemy warriors and dangerous white trappers.  Wind Chaser, a wolf-dog, is her only companion until Masheka, a Kootenai warrior, is guided to protect her.

Back cover

Back cover

The book garnered good reviews in Bloomsbury Review and Colorado Libraries Mpls. St. Paul MagazineI look forward to giving my novel new life as an eBook.

Success with Kickstarter, Do?U Adventures June 19, 2013

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image-4Last year Anna Skarie did a guest blog on Kickstarter.  She and her mother, Joy Dey, wrote Just Another Monday (SWAK Publishing), a children’s book, and used Kickstarter to get enough money to publish it.  I wanted to do a follow up on their ongoing adventure.  Anna and Joy made their goal on Kickstarter and published their book! They are now selling and promoting the book thought fairs, museums, libraries, bookstores and schools.  They made a large copy of the book so all the children could see it when they read it outloud.  In the older grades they talk about publishing.  Here is a picture of Anna with the large sized book.


The adventure begins.

The adventure begins.

Anna and Joy call their book a DoU (do-you) Adventure and have an entire series in production. On each page the child decides what to do and turns to that tab.  There are 70 different adventures the children can have.

The story starts with:

A dragon lands right beside you! Yikes! Do you. . .

Run like crazy


Hop on?

The child then decides what to do and turns to that tab.

Children reading the story with their father.

Children reading the story with their father.

Here are all the paths the adventure can take.

Here are all the paths the adventure can take.

Anna and Joy at the museum, Joy is on the far right

Anna and Joy at Pease Elemary School , Joy is on the far right

The book is mainly for children who are old enough to choose their own adventures, but my grandson Asher who is only 5 months enjoyed the bright colors and turning the pages.  The book is made with heavy cardboard so it is sturdy enough for babies.

Asher looking at the book

Asher picking his adventure.

Good book!

Good book!

What is on the boat page?

What is on the boat page?

If there is a child in your life who would like to have lots of adventures with a dragon you can order the book off Amazon.

Their website is sitwithakid.com

Future Events

Saturday, July 6th – Twin Ports Bridge Festival event and booth

Saturday, July 20th – Two Harbors Chalk-A-Lot

Saturday/Sunday, August 24th/25th – Austin Artworks Festival reading and booth

One Last Wish, poem by Soltermann May 21, 2013

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Today I want to share a poem by E. Johannes Soltermann who is a talented writer, poet and musician.  One of the things he likes to do is play the piano at the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport to share his music and love of life.  He is the author of The Gate: A Tale for the 21st Century, and Healing From Terrorism, Fear, and Global War.



One Last Wish

If I’m granted one last wish,

I would spend it on surrender

I would sing out all I can,

pass it to the greater will.

If I’m given one next step,

I’d release it to my heart

let the sorrow be like joy,

let the plan be a first birth.

If I’m blessed with one last sound,

I would open all my doors,

let the music sweep my house

like it never swept before.

If I’m offered one more love,

I will open both my palms,

let go all that came before,

give completely to Your will.

E. Johannes Soltermann


Bel Kaufman, An inspiring woman at 101 February 21, 2013

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From time to time we are asked the question: “What if this was your last day?”  Instead I was wondering: “What you would do if you knew you were going to live to be 100?”  How would you live differently?  Would you still retire at 62 or 65 or even 70?  What interests would you pursue if you knew you had another 35 or 40 year to pursue them in after retirement?  What ways would you contribute to the world during those 35 to 40 years?

ImageRecently I was sent a delightful YouTube of 101-year-old Bel Kaufman. She said that retiring is like retiring from life and is quoted to have said, “I’m too busy to get old.”  At 100 she taught a college class on Jewish humor at Hunter College.  Even she seemed impressed by being asked to teach a class at her age.  She still has a sharp mind and a great sense of humor, as you will see on this YouTube on fascinating elders.


Bel Kaufman was born in 1911 in Berlin, Germany where her father was studying medicine, but her native language was Russian.  She was raised in Odessa and Kiev (present-day Republic of Ukraine) until she was twelve and her family immigrated to the US.

Bel is best know for having written a best selling 1965 novel Up the Down Staircase that was turned into a movie.  The book was based on some of her experiences as a high school teacher.  Her grandfather who wrote the stories that were developed into Fiddler on the Roof and who corresponded with other Russian authors such as Leo Tolstoy influenced her.

Here is a talk she gave at Iona College.  It well worth listening to the YouTube. Bel talks about humor, her novel, and her experience of having her novel being made into a movie.


“What you would do if you knew you were going to live to be 100?”  Did these YouTubes change your idea of what it is like to be old.  I hesitate to say senior since Bel said being called a senior reminded her of senior prom.

Our Kickstarter Adventure June 12, 2012

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Today I’m posting a guest blog by Anna Skarie on her experience with Kickstarter. Kickstarter is a great website for funding creative projects. Anna and her mother, Joy Dey, have written a wonderful, unique dragon book that allows children to chose what they want to do. Here is their description of the book:

“In a DoU Adventure, your child is the hero, making choices on every page that lead through over 75 possible pathways, out of the frying pan into the fire, until they get back home safely. Whew! Each choice has an icon that matches a tab. Kids use the tabs to navigate their customized adventures.”

As many authors know, finding a publisher is hard work, and self-publishing is hard work WITH a large cash outlay. We decided to go the hardest of these and start our own publishing company, because what is life without the adventure? “Just Another Monday” (the book that started all of this) is an interactive children’s picture book. In short, the hero chooses their own adventure by following tabs along the right edge of the book. If you check out our Kickstarter video or go to our website, there is a longer explanation with pictures.
We’re here to tell you the things we’ve learned so far on our search for the funding portion of this. If you have any questions after reading, please don’t hesitate to contact us (info@swakpublishing.com). In return, we’d like you to consider passing the word along via backing, facebook likes, following, pins, blogging, or whatever your preferred method is.


The basics…
First, if you already know what Kickstarter is all about, you can skip this paragraph. Kickstarter is basically a seed funding website. If you have a project (or a book), and you need money to get that project started (or publish your book), I highly recommend this approach, even though we’re only three quarters of the way through our journey so far. You can make an account to back other projects and/or upload your own. The idea is that each project has a monetary goal and “backers” try to help you reach your goal. They may do this out of the goodness of their hearts, or for the rewards. Reward tiers are decided by the project creator (you), and usually offer something extra (eg, signing or creativity). This last bit is important though: if you don’t reach your goal, you don’t get any money. That’s the basics, and hopefully the following will fill in the gaps.

Our start…
Our journey began long ago (in May), surrounded by some brilliant minds, on my living room sofa. Every Tuesday, we have a “mastermind” meeting of brainstorming any projects we’re working on, and my sister-in-law, came to this meeting with this “Kickstarter” thing none of us had heard of. I have since learned that kickstarter is currently responsible for 10% of the venture capital funding in the United States. We had been racking our brains for how to come up with the $20,000 required to print a larger run of Just Another Monday. The larger run is required because the tabs need to be die-cut (ie, have their shape stamped out of the paper) and the heavy dies cost money up front. The larger the run, the more that cost is spread out over the books. Cue kickstarter!

Why kickstarter…
– little or no monetary risk (depending on how you market yourself)
– you will likely get “Kickstarters” who back you and are not part of your network
– succeed or not, it gets your name out and gives you contacts who are interested in your project
– it’s up to you to get the word out
– projects with previous followings generally have an easier time of it (maybe not a con depending on your project)
– you MIGHT be rejected (although you can resubmit easily and well thought-out book projects seem to have a high acceptance rate)

1. Your network – it really matters how much time/effort/interest/money you can drum up yourself. Kickstarter funders, although generous, won’t fund a project completely on their own, and you probably shouldn’t even count on “mostly”. Friends, current followers, family, friends of friends, anyone who can help you pass the word on (even if they don’t back you) is an important part of your network.

2. Social media is also important. If you don’t use facebook, twitter, pinterest, reddit, stumbleupon…you get the idea…you should find a helper who does. Getting higher on Kickstarter’s “popular” pages (and thus viewed more often) seems to be some combination of your backers, comments, % of goal, and such on Kickstarter; your links, facebook likes, and other buzz on the web; and the place your project is at (you get a boost at the beginning and end of your project)

3. It is a lot of work to keep buzz going through the life of the project. Be ready to have to flog for the length you set (30 days is usually the most successful), and have some fun doing it 🙂

What it has been like for us…
Some of this sounds so ominous, but really kickstarter is an amazing resource for anyone looking to fund a dream project (Like us!). We’ve fleshed out our idea the more we’ve blogged, facebooked, commented, and talked to people about it. One thing that really worked for us is a card with how to get to the kickstarter page on it. Since our project is a printed book, it made sense for us to try a few approaches for people who are less likely to use the internet. It also makes great “small” talk. We’ve had a lot of fun hearing people’s takes and opinions. It’s a great feeling whenever someone puts their belief in you. We really appreciate people doing whatever they can. Every time a friend or acquaintance wrote something like this we were very touched:

“One of my girlfriends and her mother made a children’s book. I have actually seen a copy of it and it is awesome. They are trying to get this book published with the publishing company that they created and need help. If you like the book and can pledge money towards it that’s great but she also understands that money can be tight. Even if you could just keep passing this along to others it would be a great help. The following links are to their Facebook page and to a kickstarter page (it is where you can propose ideas and get the word out to get funding).


All in all, it’s been a wonderful adventure. We haven’t succeeded yet, but here’s hoping and I still completely recommend the kickstarter journey. If you plan it, prepare it, and push push push it, they will come 🙂

Cheers, and happy adventuring!

~ Anna Skarie

co-founder of S.W.A.K. Publishing

(sit with a kid!)



We’re happy to answer questions. To contact us or lend us some support, here are the links…
our email: info@swakpublishing.com
our project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1541772125/just-another-monday-2

facebook: http://www.facebook.com/SWAKpublishing
twitter: http://www.twitter.com/SWAKpublishing
pinterest: http://pinterest.com/sitwithakid
our blog: http://sitwithakid.wordpress.com

Past Lives: Ali and Heidi Interview November 4, 2011

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Recently Ali Wylie interviewed me on the theme of quests, past lives and about my book Red Willow’s Quest on her postcast program Into the Beyond. The interview includes such topics as how to remember your own past lives and what is the spiritual benefit is of remembering past lives.  Enjoy this chat with Ali and me and be sure to leave your comments. Do you have a spiritual quest? Have you had a past life remembrance?

The following is a copy of a podcast from Ali Wylie podcast Into the Beyond. Ali’s website is astralwings.com where she give techniques to learn how to astral travel.